So yesterday I was chatting with a client, and he tells me that he’s really happy with his Google rankings…but feels he could do better in Yahoo. He then asks me if I could focus more on Yahoo.
I tell him that Yahoo just eats up big ole powerful sitewide links….but that Google doesn’t seem too keen on those types of links anymore. I then tell him that we should continue our current linking methods, and keep the focus on Google. His site ranks really good in Google, and OK in Yahoo – and I’ll take that.
Today I was reading a blog by a yahoo employee and saw a mention of a particular huge powerful site that I used to advertise on a few years ago, so I thought I’d check to see how the advertising is doing for those who are advertising there now….and man….people getting the sitewide links appear to be getting over 1.5 million backlinks and most are sitting at #1 in Yahoo for the phrase they’re targeting….most are new sites, and don’t do squat in Google (this site has the google PR block…and has for years)….but man oh man…look at Yahoo eat them links up and rank them sites at the top just on backlinks from this 1 site…..man, I miss when Google would eat that stuff up too. Don’t you?
Wanna know the secret to top Yahoo rankings? Buy huge sitewide links….but keep in mind, doing that might bite you in the ass with Google…..but then again, you’re choices with a new site are: 1. wait for several years to have a chance in Google. or #2 Aim for Yahoo with Huge Sitewide links and wait a few weeks.
…oh yea, and another thing about this site’s advertisors….most have Google adsense on the top of these pages….funny….Google block the PR and Value of the link….Yahoo doesn’t, and thus ranks the advertised sites at #1, and then Google pays them people $….. I’d say it’s a conspiracy….but sadly it’s not.
Funny indeed how Google and Yahoo recognize their own ads on siters but don’t recognize each other’s… Had a few laughs about it recently, like Google alerts bringing sites with YPN ads, etc… As for sitewides – make a difference between the actual sitewide links and purchased links – Google seems to dislike even single occurences of purchased links nowadays when they know they’re purchased – while with sitewides, they just count them all as one instead of 1,000…
Google? Yahoo? pffft… these days most of my traffic seems to be coming from Ask (at least for a few more days)
Not sure why it worked out that way, exactly. Pretty sure I’m neither a hub nor an authority.
It is similar as MSN. Huge sitewides make a big difference. I think Google counts 5 and rest devalued or something.
I find it hard to get results in Google with clients that has new sites, it takes time ….
hmmm… maybe I should register “Sitewideman.com” for those guys optimizing for Yahoo & MSN :-))
I see the same thing. Sitewides do wonders in Yahoo. I have not seen any evidence that sitewides harm the rankings in Google though. But, that could of course be a coinsidence.
Very interesting post, Jim. I know EXACTLY the site you are talking about. But instead of stumbling around trying to accidentally find these sites, how do you do a general SEARCH for websites that have a very high number of indexed pages (for example 10,000+)?
Obviously if you have a few domain names you can do the site:domain query to determine the number of pages indexed for that particular site, but what if you are searching for the highly indexed domains from scratch?
How can you do the research to find these rather large sites?
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